[600MRG] Last night at WD2XSH/20

Sun Jul 20 14:52:11 CDT 2014

certainly WSQ has merit.  Using it conversationally, it would be a trade off between detection depth and speed.  If you could make the QSO / have a ragchew at faster speeds because condx warrant, its probably just smarter to do that.  I think a lot of guys, particularly your average op, would probably get bored and go watch TV.  Thats only my opinion, however.  Most of us are much more motivated and ambitious about this stuff than that and thats why we are here.

In a recent discussion on the ON4KST logger, the focus went to DX QSO's..  I won't go into my philosophy on this again here as you can go over there and read the archive from thursday morning on that topic if you are interested but there might be some merit using WSQ for report-only QSO's, much like JT9.  WSQ is not setup to show S/N IIRC, but one could implement the same letter system / timing cycles the EME guys use(d) to confirm each exchange... It would be simple to send a string of a letter in the same fashion they use(d) for EME to denote a report, etc, and due to the randomness of the trash characters that show up from noise could certainly be proof positive that a report was received.

I still have my issues with the ZL1EE/ZL!BPU interfaces.  While a German did make some mods to allow audio freq selection from the waterfall like PSK31, I dont know that it ever caught on.  The lack of working CAT control is another one of my personal issues with the program.

73!

John XIQ

________________________________
 From: Neil Klagge <w0yse.7 at gmail.com>
To: John Langridge <jlangridge at sbcglobal.net> 
Cc: 600MRG <600mrg at w7ekb.com> 
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [600MRG] Last night at WD2XSH/20

John, I read the link on WSQ that Paul sent me. I am thinking I would
prefer WSQ2 to JT9 since it is not a "canned" exchange. I can deal with 5
wpm if I can get thru at -25 dBn. I am amazed that WSQ can do that.

Just thinkin' out loud.... ( 2 cents...)

Neil

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On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:50 AM, John Langridge <jlangridge at sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

> Rudy,
>
> Obviously Fritz is the final word on the matter but JT9 *should* be ok for
> XSH guys... its nothing more than FSK, like WSPR, slightly wider but not
> outside of your legal bounds based on what it listed on 500kc.com.
> Perhaps Fritz can weigh in on that and maybe you will be able to get on.
>
> I had a short exchange with Paul, W0RW, today about WSQ.  It may be slow
> as Christmas, but for the use of JT9-like exchanges with considerably
> deeper detection limit, it might work great.  For conversations, its the
> pits, due to speed.  Anyway, I may play with this some.  Like JT9 and WSPR,
> it is also FSK and should fit within the XSH confine.
>
> 73 and heres hope for more great condx!
>
> John XIQ
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Rudy Severns <n6lf at epud.net>
> To: 600MRG <600mrg at w7ekb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 12:41 PM
> Subject: [600MRG] Last night at WD2XSH/20
>
>
> Thanks everyone for the reports.  Getting into ME is a real surprise!!  My
> ground conductivity is way down this time of year so I would have thought
> my
> signal would be down since I'm not running any more power than usual.  This
> morning I had to dig a deep hole for the base of my 160m vertical and found
> the soil bone dry and hard as concrete two feet or more down!  I'm making
> progress here on HF antennas so have had some time to get back on MF.  Will
> try to be on most nights.
>
> The WSPR tests have shown the band has possibilities we never suspected, or
> at least I never expected.  Summer propagation may be very up and down but
> it's far from dead.  This winter I'll want to work hard on CW QSO's.  I
> wish
> the XSH license would allow JT9 and JT65 but it doesn't.  I think these
> would be very interesting.  Even though I can't transmit these modes I
> certainly can listen, decode and report so I hope you guys will give those
> modes a shot.  I tuned in to Ralph's (XSH/7) PSK signal often but I found
> that when I could just begin to get a reasonable decode I could also copy
> his CW ID as well or better.  I think PSK doesn't have any special
> advantage
> for us.  JT9 however, should be very useful.  I don't need to talk fast!
>
> 73, Rudy
>
>
>
>
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