[600MRG] License class

[John Langridge]

And one thing Chris didn't mention was that as far as unattended
beacons are concerned, WSPR is a very efficient use of beaconing
bandwidth with a much better detection limit until you get near QRSS
CW speeds.  That's going to be important.  It would only take a couple
unattended, clicky, aural CW beacons droning on to trash weak signal
CW capabilities that many of us enjoy now and hope to take advantage
of on longer haul DX paths under part-97 rules.

That's the main reason any mention of those unattended CW beacons in
the informal "band plan" was excluded.  The ARRL's group resolved to
do any of that type of beaconing outside of the ham band with any
continued experimentation.

we will figure it out.. there will be some growing pains but it will be ok...

73,

jl






On 9/18/17, Chris - KC0TKS <kc0tks at cmsdigital.net> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I have operated a 10 meter CW beacon for a bit more than 10 years now.
> For the past 3 years it has been QRP (275mW) and dual-mode, transmitting
> both CW and WSPR. Depending on time of year and conditions, I get
> anywhere from 5 to 200 WSPR spots per day but only 3-4 CW spots per YEAR
> despite the fact that is spends 80% if its time sending CW (8 minutes
> CW, 2 Minutes WSPR).
>
> I realize that no comparisons between 10 meters and 630 meters should be
> made, but the difference in the modes are night-and-day.
>
> When I spoke of "practical" I was referencing the amount of money,
> equipment and effort put forth vs. the quantity and usefulness of spots.
> Any beaconing mode has some chance of being copied. For a QRP beacon, my
> money is on WSPR.
>
> Chris - KC0TKS
>
>
>
>
> On 09/18/2017 02:02 PM, William E. Isakson wrote:
>> No Chris, a CW beacon can be copied.   When I was still able to beacon
>> using WD2XSH
>>   my one third watt beacon from the San Francisco Bay Area was copied in
>> Colorado.   My transmit antenna was never higher than 30 feet either.
>>   However, that was, of course, an uncommon event and a very good
>> receiver
>> e-field antenna.   Using an out of band hamstick (40 meter) for receive
>> 630
>> meters and a standard yeacomwood type ham radio for receive, the signals
>> went only locally.   That is to say that to work with CW QRP like that
>> you
>> have to have a real in band antenna at the receiving end, but you can do
>> dx
>> that way.
>> Bill
>>
>> --------
>>
>>
>> Bill Isakson     AC6QV
>> Roseburg, Oregon USA
>> bill.isakson at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Chris - KC0TKS <kc0tks at cmsdigital.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> Yes, any beacons would be WSPR. It is probably the only practical mode
>>> that a QRP beacon would stand a chance of being copied with. Just wasn't
>>> sure of the technicalities involved with registering multiple locations
>>> with the UTC.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the reply.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Chris - KC0TKS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/16/2017 12:09 PM, Eric NO3M wrote:
>>>
>>>> The bands (630M and 2200M) will only be available to General class and
>>>> higher.
>>>>
>>>> Registering his location and beaconing under your own call would be
>>>> acceptable as far as I understand.  However, as a matter of etiquette,
>>>> I
>>>> would recommend using WSPR if you plan to beacon.  I don't know if there
>>>> is
>>>> an informal bandplan carve-out for CW and QRSS beacons, but with such
>>>> limited space, WSPR is far more friendly and productive, given that data
>>>> is
>>>> uploaded to a central database and available for mining and study.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Eric NO3M / WG2XJM
>>>>
>>>> On 09/16/2017 12:23 PM, Chris - KC0TKS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I submitted my application to the UTC yesterday, looking forward to
>>>>> putting something on the air, however, I have a couple of questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a friend that has acreage and is very interested in putting a
>>>>> station up but he is only a technician class. Are Techs permitted to
>>>>> operate on these new bands? If not, can I register his location in
>>>>> addition
>>>>> to mine with the UTC and operate a beacon at his house under my call
>>>>> if
>>>>> approved?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris - KC0TKS
>>>>>
>>>>>
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