[600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

Wed Nov 8 14:56:08 CST 2017

I think Dick's point was that based on the way the Rules are written today, setting-op and operating on 630/2200m from say your local County EOC for EM-COM is not legal unless you have notified the UTC and given them 30 days to object from that EOC or fire station or Red Cross building, or whatever it be..

This unique operation matter is one that comes up only when looking back in time at the justifications of WHY the hams felt such bands were good in the first place. The justification sadly becomes moot under the current Rules, but that's not to say it can't be reviewed at a later date by the FCC.

That aside, if you have waited 30-days and have NOT received an OBJECTION to operate on a given band, you are free to start operating from the location you gave in your notification post to the UTC.  It's that simple.

-Brian, WA1ZMS
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> On Nov 8, 2017, at 3:36 PM, Chris - KC0TKS <kc0tks at cmsdigital.net> wrote:
> 
> So, what Dick posted is not true?
> 
> I keep getting jerked back-and-forth, nowhere official to find the real story?
> 
> 
>> On 11/08/2017 12:33 PM, Dick Illman wrote:
>> It should be noted that we can presently only operate from locations that
>> have been preapproved by the UTC.
>> 
>> 73 Dick Illman
>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 20:16:49 -0600
>>> From: Frederick Raab <w1fr at gmrr.biz>
> So, what Dick posted is not true?
> 
> I keep getting jerked back-and-forth, nowhere official to find the real story?
> 
> 
>> On 11/08/2017 12:33 PM, Dick Illman wrote:
>> It should be noted that we can presently only operate from locations that
>> have been preapproved by the UTC.
>> 
>> 73 Dick Illman
>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 20:16:49 -0600
>>> From: Frederick Raab <w1fr at gmrr.biz>
>>> To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
>>> Subject: [600MRG] 630-meter EM-COMM
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>>> November 6, 2017
>>> 
>>> Gentlemen:
>>> 
>>>      As Pat W5THT points out, we have hardly had an
>>> amateur band long enough to use it for EM-COMM, and
>>> we don't want to hope for the opportunity.
>>> 
>>>      However, it should certainly be possible:
>>> 
>>> -  W0RPK and KN8AZN(SK) built a transportable station -
>>>    something you could carry in a van or pick-up
>>>    truck to the place for deployment.  It was used
>>>    on the air and made contacts.
>>> 
>>> -  We ran a number of tests of ground-wave communication
>>>    and demonstrated 24/7 ionoshere-independent comms
>>>    over about 100 mi or moore.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73, Fritz, W1FR,
>>> Coordinator, ARRL 500-kHz Experiment
>>> 
>>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>>> 1183 Jonquil Lane
>>> Boone, Iowa 50036  USA
>>> Tel.  +1 (515) 275-2141
>>> Cell:  (802) 598-9527
>>> E-mail:  f.raab at ieee.org
>>> Alt:  fraab at gmrr.biz
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>>> 
>>> ------------------------------
>>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:54:40 +0000
>>> From: Marshall Cross <mcross at megawave.com>
>>> To: Frederick Raab <w1fr at gmrr.biz>, "600mrg at w7ekb.com"
>>>         <600mrg at w7ekb.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [600MRG] 630-meter EM-COMM
>>> Message-ID:
>>>         <792D16C0DAB9294392871225BA3DA212E83591F8 at Ultrawave.
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>>> 
>>> And just want to add that some of the 100 mile groundwave daytime cw
>>> contacts were made with simple roll-out on-ground antennas fed by Juma 60
>>> Watt xmtrs. 73, Marshall, W1HK
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: 600MRG [mailto:600mrg-bounces at w7ekb.com] On Behalf Of Frederick Raab
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 9:17 PM
>>> To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
>>> Subject: [600MRG] 630-meter EM-COMM
>>> 
>>> November 6, 2017
>>> 
>>> Gentlemen:
>>> 
>>>      As Pat W5THT points out, we have hardly had an amateur band long
>>> enough to use it for EM-COMM, and we don't want to hope for the opportunity.
>>> 
>>>      However, it should certainly be possible:
>>> 
>>> -  W0RPK and KN8AZN(SK) built a transportable station -
>>>    something you could carry in a van or pick-up
>>>    truck to the place for deployment.  It was used
>>>    on the air and made contacts.
>>> 
>>> -  We ran a number of tests of ground-wave communication
>>>    and demonstrated 24/7 ionoshere-independent comms
>>>    over about 100 mi or moore.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73, Fritz, W1FR,
>>> Coordinator, ARRL 500-kHz Experiment
>>> 
>>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>>> 1183 Jonquil Lane
>>> Boone, Iowa 50036  USA
>>> Tel.  +1 (515) 275-2141
>>> Cell:  (802) 598-9527
>>> E-mail:  f.raab at ieee.org
>>> Alt:  fraab at gmrr.biz
>>> Web:  www.gmrr.biz
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