[600MRG] Measuring power

John Langridge jlangridge at sbcglobal.net
Mon Mar 23 19:40:18 CDT 2015 

>Solution 
will be constant pressure and keep doing "great 
things" to demonstrate the potential of the 600m 
band as a ham band

agree 100% and thats why anything and everything that we are involved with - we need to go after the publicity....  I'm planning on participating in the FD CW greeting again and hope the others who participated last year plus more will be involved this year...  That was huge in 2014 and there were a large number of curious groups who filed reports.  Lot of pub on that one...  More special operating events need to be organzied... The one late last October was a blast...  I seem to recall getting some pub about that one as well...  its all outreach and making people aware.. maybe you get some that jump on board...

73!
John XIQ

      From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
 To: John Langridge <jlangridge at sbcglobal.net>; "600mrg at w7ekb.com" <600mrg at w7ekb.com> 
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 6:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [600MRG] Measuring power
   
No argument with what you say...too true.  I did 
forget the restrictions on modes used and who we 
can make contacts under exp licensing.  Solution 
will be constant pressure and keep doing "great 
things" to demonstrate the potential of the 600m 
band as a ham band.  I'm one of the distracted 
and spread too thin "one's".  But I will be back 
(probably when I get money to upgrade the K3 with 
new synth boards so I can operate 472-478).

If WD2XSH goes away I will apply for my own exp license to stay on the band.

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 02:33 PM 3/23/2015, John Langridge wrote:
>I actually didn't see Steve's comments until Ed 
>posted his reply.. the joys of email 
>lists....Still selectively getting list 
>messages... this is kind of a dead horse, but 
>here goes: its not that I don't want 630-meters 
>to be a ham band - I absolutely do!   But I 
>stand by what I originally said - There is no 
>one here as an individual or a whole that is 
>going to affect that change and get the FCC to 
>make a move until *they* are ready to act on the 
>matter. The matter of the experimental license 
>vs. amateur license is noted and its obvious 
>that we are very passionate about this matter - 
>every one of us that are active operators 
>probably have lamented the limitations we 
>currently experience.  We are limited to comms 
>with other Part 5 stations and thats 
>unfortunate.  Having had numerous conversations 
>with Steve, VE7SL, this seems to be the linchpin 
>for getting widespread VE participation.  We 
>can't operate cross band.  This, in my opinion, 
>will be huge in getting US hams interested in 
>actually communicating - not just 
>beaconing...But again, we can desire these 
>things until we are sick and it won't change on 
>our time table. >Steve makes a valid point on 
>how numbers count for securing access for long 
>time. I can go a bunch of directions with 
>this:  Of course numbers count.    But we 
>have plenty of guys that went through the Part 5 
>process, paid their $65, and were issued grants 
>that have never been on the air.  Some of that 
>is the reality of a busy life and being spread 
>too thin.  I get that - I'm busy too.   Others 
>probably find themselves in over their 
>heads.  Thats because frankly what we do is 
>more ham radio than ham radio today and the 
>requisite skills and characteristics at MF are 
>not explicitly necessary to get on HF..Sad but 
>true.  Now, it does not matter how many 
>articles turn up in QST about how to get on the 
>band or how many of us put up web pages with 
>specific info on how to get on the air - you 
>gotta want this if you are going to be 
>successful.   We can be there to elmer and help 
>guys through the process but at the end of the 
>day, the operator has to desire to do it - you 
>can lead a horse to water...  I do not see a 
>lot of guys wanting anything to do with this 
>niche - I wish that were not the case.  Here in 
>the Dallas it seems so many people are just 
>sitting on VHF FMand UHF FM - the new CB locally 
>or worse, fooling with echolink.   But there 
>will be some that are up to the challenge and 
>they will probably be the cream of the crop.  A 
>ham band will bring awards program intergration 
>and that will help ultimately.  Hopefully Top 
>banders and extreme ops will step up to the 
>challenge as the misconceptions of the band 
>(which are rampant right now) start to go 
>away.  So I think there is hope but I 
>absolutely expect the people who really want it 
>won't wait.  The ones that could go either way 
>or the "round-tuit" (sic) crowd wont ever get 
>"round-tuit"... and, I'm starting to sound like 
>a broken record: all that said - its still 
>predicated on the FCC deciding to act and until 
>they do, there is nothing that can be done by 
>anyone.  If you want to play now, you 
>can.  Its not an ideal situation, but for many 
>of us we will take it for now...If you got 
>lemons, make lemonade... 73! John XIQ      From: 
>Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net> To: 
>sbjohnston at aol.com; 600mrg at w7ekb.com Sent: 
>Monday, March 23, 2015 4:22 PM Subject: Re: 
>[600MRG] Measuring power    I think it matters 
>for all of us.  My comments were that we few 
>that have experimental licenses can establish a 
>"beachfront" for the main ham troops to land, 
>eventually.  And if you are really interested 
>do not let lack of ham allocation stop you from 
>getting on 600m (properly licensed, of course). 
>Steve makes a valid point on how numbers count 
>for securing access for long time. 73, Ed - 
>KL7UW At 10:52 AM 3/23/2015, sbjohnston at aol.com 
>wrote: > > >Some good points have been raised - 
>thanks.  To address John's >question, "Does it 
>matter that its not a ham band 
>herenow...?" > >It does matter for me, for 
>several reasons:  I see powerful >connections 
>between 630 meters and the early days of ham 
>radio.  I >see the experimenting that is 
>underway now as an important part of >the 
>'amateur radio experience' and an aspect of the 
>hobby that I >want to encourage 
>wholeheartedly.  I do not want radio 
>experimenting >by hams to require an 
>experimental license - it should be a 
>natural >and ordinary function of our 
>activities, not requiring special >dispensation 
>from the regulators.  And finally, I feel it is 
>better >for everyone when ham bands are 
>world-wide and not exclusive in >certain parts 
>of the world - witness the challenges faced by 
>the 70 >and 222 MHz bands. > > > >Steve WD8DAS / 
>WH2XHY > >sbjohnston at aol.com >http://www.wd8das.n 
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