[600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

Art Roberts w1aer at outlook.com
Wed Nov 8 19:18:17 CST 2017


Marshall,

I have two high tension lines right behind the property and I got approved. Go figure.

73 es DX
Art  W1AER

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Art Roberts - W1AER
Farmington, CT 06032
Hartford County
FN31or

-----Original Message-----
From: 600MRG [mailto:600mrg-bounces at w7ekb.com] On Behalf Of Marshall Cross
Sent: November 8, 2017 2:15 PM
To: Chris - KC0TKS <kc0tks at cmsdigital.net>; 600mrg at w7ekb.com
Subject: Re: [600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

Chris, Nov. QST clearly states that if you don't get a rejection notice within 30 days from your UTC filing then it is ok to transmit. On another level, if you are still concerned about being sued, then ask yourself if your station is within 1 km or so from any high-tension power lines, if not this close then probably no need to worry. As far as legalities: beats me, I am just an engineer not an esquire. But I suspect if you gathered 8 of the world's greatest legal minds around a conference room table and asked about this, you would get 9 answers before lunch, and about 13 after they come back at 2:30 pm. 73, Marshall, W1HK 

-----Original Message-----
From: 600MRG [mailto:600mrg-bounces at w7ekb.com] On Behalf Of Chris - KC0TKS
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:55 PM
To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
Subject: Re: [600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 79, Issue 9

After nearly two months without an approval/denial, I was under the assumption that since I did not receive a denial within the 30 day window, I was good to go and have ordered hundreds of dollars worth of parts.

Does anyone really know what the real legalities are?

This is the most ridiculous fiasco I have ever participated in.




On 11/08/2017 12:33 PM, Dick Illman wrote:
> It should be noted that we can presently only operate from locations 
> that have been preapproved by the UTC.
>
> 73 Dick Illman
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>> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 20:16:49 -0600
>> From: Frederick Raab <w1fr at gmrr.biz>
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>> Subject: [600MRG] 630-meter EM-COMM
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>> November 6, 2017
>>
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>>       As Pat W5THT points out, we have hardly had an amateur band 
>> long enough to use it for EM-COMM, and we don't want to hope for the 
>> opportunity.
>>
>>       However, it should certainly be possible:
>>
>> -  W0RPK and KN8AZN(SK) built a transportable station -
>>     something you could carry in a van or pick-up
>>     truck to the place for deployment.  It was used
>>     on the air and made contacts.
>>
>> -  We ran a number of tests of ground-wave communication
>>     and demonstrated 24/7 ionoshere-independent comms
>>     over about 100 mi or moore.
>>
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>> 73, Fritz, W1FR,
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 15:54:40 +0000
>> From: Marshall Cross <mcross at megawave.com>
>> To: Frederick Raab <w1fr at gmrr.biz>, "600mrg at w7ekb.com"
>>          <600mrg at w7ekb.com>
>> Subject: Re: [600MRG] 630-meter EM-COMM
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>> And just want to add that some of the 100 mile groundwave daytime cw 
>> contacts were made with simple roll-out on-ground antennas fed by 
>> Juma 60 Watt xmtrs. 73, Marshall, W1HK
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: 600MRG [mailto:600mrg-bounces at w7ekb.com] On Behalf Of Frederick 
>> Raab
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2017 9:17 PM
>> To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
>> Subject: [600MRG] 630-meter EM-COMM
>>
>> November 6, 2017
>>
>> Gentlemen:
>>
>>       As Pat W5THT points out, we have hardly had an amateur band 
>> long enough to use it for EM-COMM, and we don't want to hope for the opportunity.
>>
>>       However, it should certainly be possible:
>>
>> -  W0RPK and KN8AZN(SK) built a transportable station -
>>     something you could carry in a van or pick-up
>>     truck to the place for deployment.  It was used
>>     on the air and made contacts.
>>
>> -  We ran a number of tests of ground-wave communication
>>     and demonstrated 24/7 ionoshere-independent comms
>>     over about 100 mi or moore.
>>
>>
>> 73, Fritz, W1FR,
>> Coordinator, ARRL 500-kHz Experiment
>>
>> Frederick H. (Fritz) Raab, Ph.D.
>> GREEN MOUNTAIN RADIO RESEARCH COMPANY
>> 1183 Jonquil Lane
>> Boone, Iowa 50036  USA
>> Tel.  +1 (515) 275-2141
>> Cell:  (802) 598-9527
>> E-mail:  f.raab at ieee.org
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