[600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 11

Mon Feb 13 08:12:26 CST 2017

Hi Dave:

One final thought on the TP path from New England that's a bit of a
tangent but might make you feel good:

Roger, VK4YB, reported at one point late last year that he was seeing
a WSPR signal on his waterfall where your station was reported to be
transmitting and was consistent with a two-minute period that you were
transmitting.  I believe that he also resolved that the same cycle had
no other nearby stations transmitting (w.r.t frequency) so his
observation was likely not a harmonic or some other anomaly.  The
signal did not decode but the common thinking is that it was likely
your signal.  Thats a very long haul and while I've not run the
numbers against the records that the EU guys are keeping on
472khz.org, it may have been a record had it decoded.

Thats a tough path from the East and I think the other only reports
since I've been keeping track were reception reports of VK4YB by
WG2XJM and WA3TTS last year.

73,

John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ..

On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Dave Riley <dave.riley3 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Thanks again John L. for your insights, it makes good sense but still foggy
> here...
> I blame the Atlantic ocean for my success and then the loop, but 30 watts in
> to the antenna needs help...
> Been copied many times in KH6 land tho...
>
> Thanks also to Merv, I'll check out and see what is wrong...
>
> DaveR WD2XSH/17
>
>
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>>     1. Re: 600MRG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10 (Dave Riley)
>>     2. Re: 600MRG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10 (Merv Schweigert)
>>     3. KPH freq (Larry)
>>     4. WA2XRM on CW,  2100 EST,  479.9 kHz, 12 Feb. 2017
>>        (Paul Signorelli)
>>     5. Re: WA2XRM on CW,  2200 EST,  479.9 kHz, 12 Feb. 2017
>>        (Paul Signorelli)
>>     6. Re: KPH freq (Steve Ratzlaff)
>>     7. Re: 600MRG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10 (John Langridge)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:04:10 -0500
>> From: Dave Riley <dave.riley3 at verizon.net>
>> To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
>> Subject: Re: [600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10
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>> With much TNX to John L. for directions and the stear to the DST maps..
>> Now that I have seen two days worth it doesn't look good for DX now but
>> the N/S paths seem better, and why in summer down under are the bands so
>> good and not here??
>>
>> As to operational mode I am testing TX and filters on the WSPR channel
>> now knowing there will be no QRM to anyone out there...
>>
>> It is about an hour to sunset and I will like to call auto CQs with a
>> break and a K after each call...
>> So what if I use the CQ wheel @ QSK speed on 475.647 khz. ??
>>
>> Anyone object??
>>
>> TNX from DaveR WD2XSH/17
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:32:16 -1000
>> From: Merv Schweigert <k9fd at flex.com>
>> To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
>> Subject: Re: [600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10
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>> No idea where you are listening or checking activity,  but the band is
>> wide open and
>> has been for the entire winter here,  I have had two way with VK for
>> well over a year.
>> Last nite was copying from Japan, to Australia, to Vermont east coast etc.
>> I call that DX.   If your not hearing any of the activity there has to
>> be something
>> wrong with your receive set up,  there are up to 100 stations active
>> many nites.
>> If your going to set up a CW "beacon" try going out of the WSPR band, if
>> you state
>> your freq many will tune and try to listen for you.
>> An hour before sunset is prime time for DX to come through, at least
>> here,  I daily
>> copy stations 2500 to 3000 miles away one hour before sunset.
>> WSPR freqs are mucho crowded as it is,  set up just outside those freqs
>> and call CQ
>> and ask for reports.
>> 73 Merv K9FD/KH6    WH2XCR
>>
>>> With much TNX to John L. for directions and the stear to the DST
>>> maps.. Now that I have seen two days worth it doesn't look good for DX
>>> now but the N/S paths seem better, and why in summer down under are
>>> the bands so good and not here??
>>>
>>> As to operational mode I am testing TX and filters on the WSPR channel
>>> now knowing there will be no QRM to anyone out there...
>>>
>>> It is about an hour to sunset and I will like to call auto CQs with a
>>> break and a K after each call...
>>> So what if I use the CQ wheel @ QSK speed on 475.647 khz. ??
>>>
>>> Anyone object??
>>>
>>> TNX from DaveR WD2XSH/17
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:33:11 -0700
>> From: Larry <Telegrapher at Q.com>
>> To: "600mrg at w7ekb.com group" <600MRG at w7ekb.com>
>> Subject: [600MRG] KPH freq
>> Message-ID: <3d6e8a98-1188-3008-6e99-8e851234fb32 at Q.com>
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>> Last night around 0130Z i was monitoring the KPH 426 kc channel. While i
>> thought i was copying them, i was watching on ARGO, i saw CW sending PFL
>> about 12 cycles above them.  It was being sent continuously with what
>> appears to have been no more than a second or two between the last
>> letter and the beginning of the cycle again.  PFL..PFL..PFL  etc.  I
>> wonder if anyone else happened to see that or have seen it in the past.
>> Sure like to know where that originates.  When KPH came on to send their
>> closing message, they were very loud and audible to my weakened hearing
>> devices (ears).
>>
>> Larry
>> W0OGH
>>
>> DM52ba
>>
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:56:28 +0000
>> From: Paul Signorelli <w0rw1 at msn.com>
>> To: "600mrg at w7ekb.com" <600mrg at w7ekb.com>
>> Subject: [600MRG] WA2XRM on CW,  2100 EST,  479.9 kHz, 12 Feb. 2017
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>> WA2XRM will be on CW at  2200 EST,  12 Feb. 2017 until 0200 EST, 13 Feb.
>> 2017.
>>
>> That is 0300z - 0700z, ( 13 Feb. Zulu Day) on  479.9 kHz.
>>
>> Sending CW at 15 WPM.
>>
>> Send reports to  w0rw1 at msn.com
>>
>> New WA2XRM SWL QSL will be sent.
>>
>> Paul   wa2xrm
>>
>> Colorado
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:00:21 +0000
>> From: Paul Signorelli <w0rw1 at msn.com>
>> To: "600mrg at w7ekb.com" <600mrg at w7ekb.com>
>> Subject: Re: [600MRG] WA2XRM on CW,  2200 EST,  479.9 kHz, 12 Feb.
>>         2017
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>> Really starting at 2200 ST.
>> WA2XRM will be on CW at  2200 EST,  12 Feb. 2017 until 0200 EST, 13 Feb.
>> 2017.
>>
>> That is 0300z - 0700z, ( 13 Feb. Zulu Day) on  479.9 kHz.
>>
>> Sending CW at 15 WPM.
>>
>> Send reports to  w0rw1 at msn.com
>>
>> New WA2XRM SWL QSL will be sent.
>>
>> Paul   wa2xrm
>>
>> Colorado
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>> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:08:43 -0700
>> From: Steve Ratzlaff <ratzlaffsteve at gmail.com>
>> To: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
>> Subject: Re: [600MRG] KPH freq
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>> Hi Larry,
>>
>> PFL is a non-directional beacon on 425 kHz from Fort Sill, OK.
>>
>> A current list of North American NDBs can be found at:
>>
>> http://classaxe.com/dx/ndb/rna     You can scroll to the bottom and
>> download the whole database to save on your computer, either as an Excel
>> file or a .pdf file.  I usually get a new copy every month or so. (I DX
>> NDB's.)
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Steve AA7U
>>
>> near Sahuarita, AZ
>>
>>
>> On 2/12/2017 2:33 PM, Larry wrote:
>>>
>>> Last night around 0130Z i was monitoring the KPH 426 kc channel. While
>>> i thought i was copying them, i was watching on ARGO, i saw CW sending
>>> PFL about 12 cycles above them.  It was being sent continuously with
>>> what appears to have been no more than a second or two between the
>>> last letter and the beginning of the cycle again.  PFL..PFL..PFL
>>> etc.  I wonder if anyone else happened to see that or have seen it in
>>> the past. Sure like to know where that originates.  When KPH came on
>>> to send their closing message, they were very loud and audible to my
>>> weakened hearing devices (ears).
>>>
>>> Larry
>>> W0OGH
>>>
>>> DM52ba
>>>
>>>
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>> Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 06:46:13 -0600
>> From: John Langridge <kb5njd at gmail.com>
>> To: Dave Riley <dave.riley3 at verizon.net>
>> Cc: 600mrg at w7ekb.com
>> Subject: Re: [600MRG] 600MRG Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10
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>>> With much TNX to John L. for directions and the stear to the DST maps..
>>> Now that I have seen two days worth it doesn't look good for DX now but the
>>> N/S paths seem better, and why in summer down under are the bands so good
>>> and not here??
>>
>>
>> There is also another caveat to all this:  Because of your location,
>> which may arguably be the best location of any active 472 station in
>> NA aside from VO1NA, you might not need to observe the same high
>> levels of DST that are necessary for guys in my area and points West
>> to see the "big" TA openings.  Which leads me believe that there is
>> another mechanism in play preventing your TA - another one of those
>> teeth on the key I was mentioning previously.  Maybe we are back to
>> "conditions" being "too quiet".
>>
>>> and why in summer down under are the bands so good and not here??
>>
>> It seems to move around and rarely have I observed sessions over the
>> last year years where it is a huge night of both TA and TP.  Its
>> typically one or the other.  I've got some ideas about this behavior
>> but its beyond the scope of this discussion.
>>
>> But there is another angle to all of this:  You have a number of QRO
>> heavy hitters in the West in addition to VK4YB and a few other VK's
>> that have a tremendous amount of antenna horsepower coupled with
>> fantastic locations.   The higher latitudes of many European stations
>> are likely more challenging to reach given that RF tries to move away
>> from regions of high electron density, which is comparatively close.
>> In other words I consider the path the VK and JA to be cleaner than
>> the path to Europe, which requires quieter geomagnetic conditions and
>> other factors.
>>
>> This is all just talk and it doesn't mean anything at the end of the
>> day.  Just observations and trying to put puzzle pieces together.
>>
>> 73/GM,
>>
>> John KB5NJD / WG2XIQ..
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Dave Riley <dave.riley3 at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> With much TNX to John L. for directions and the stear to the DST maps..
>>> Now
>>> that I have seen two days worth it doesn't look good for DX now but the
>>> N/S
>>> paths seem better, and why in summer down under are the bands so good and
>>> not here??
>>>
>>> As to operational mode I am testing TX and filters on the WSPR channel
>>> now
>>> knowing there will be no QRM to anyone out there...
>>>
>>> It is about an hour to sunset and I will like to call auto CQs with a
>>> break
>>> and a K after each call...
>>> So what if I use the CQ wheel @ QSK speed on 475.647 khz. ??
>>>
>>> Anyone object??
>>>
>>> TNX from DaveR WD2XSH/17
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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