at 10 am local time Larry is -25dB and Rudy is 0 dB into Vancouver WA Neil *"I use the original form of social networking: Amateur Radio." * *(my ham radio sites are at 'w0yse.webs.com <http://w0yse.webs.com>' and 'wg2xsv.webs.com <http://wg2xsv.webs.com>' )*