[600MRG] [Lowfer] My Tree-Tenna Experiment - 8-13-2014

[Carl]

Its called a BeverageOnGround, I have a pair of 500' ones to complent my 
regular elevated ones.

Carl
KM1H


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Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [600MRG] [Lowfer] My Tree-Tenna Experiment - 8-13-2014


>
>
> check out beverage antennas on wikipedia,,,, a long wire on the ground
> with a resister termination
>
> Bob K3DJC
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 21:40:27 -0400 KU4XR <ku4xrradio at gmail.com> writes:
>> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Merv Schweigert <k9fd at flex.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Do not see how this is any comparison at all,  if you are tuning
>> the wire
>> > when connected to the tree,  for a fair comparison you would have
>> to
>> > retune the wire again after disconnecting,
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>> Hi Merv: Thanks for the comments.. I have Re-Tuned the short wire
>> after seeing what
>> happened when disconnecting it from the tree.. Doing so; the noise
>> level rose by
>> 2 S-units on 474.200 KHz.. I won't be able to check the difference
>> on
>> the signal from
>> the radio station until Thursday afternoon, when it's back on the
>> air,
>> and skywave at
>> the minimum for the day... This has been an ongoing experiment for a
>> few months,
>> just for fun, and just to see what happens... I found out
>> immediately,
>> after disconnecting
>> the wire from the tree, that the short wire is a " house noise "
>> magnifier !! When TV's
>> come on; reception is obliterated with the " wire " un-terminated..
>> This brings back to
>> my mind a comment from another post made on my experiment, being
>> that
>> the tree is
>> most likely just a resistive termination point in the way I am
>> connecting to it..
>>
>> Interesting !! This has me wondering if I were to drive in a ground
>> rod, and connect a
>> variable resistor in series with it, and the " wire " ; if I could
>> adjust the resistor for a value
>> that would yield the same results as the termination to the tree ??
>>
>> No Doubt !! The short " wire " - IS - the pick-up element in the
>> equation.. However, the
>> termination to the tree made it a much quieter receiveing antenna
>> than
>> it is un-terminated..
>>
>> 73:
>>
>> Andy - KU4XR
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